Eldorado Forest OHV Virtual Open House

Okay, I missed the Tahoe NF email about their open house. It was on the 10th. Here’s your opportunity to be included in the ENF open house. It’s on the 23rd:

Eldorado National Forest Virtual Open House to discuss
Off-Highway Vehicle grant applications

PLACERVILLE, Calif. – The Eldorado National Forest (ENF) is requesting public input for the California 2022 State Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation (OHMVR) Grants and Cooperative Agreements Program application cycle. The Grants Program is an annual program that provides for off-highway vehicle (OHV) recreation in the State of California by providing financial assistance to eligible agencies and organizations that develop, maintain, operate, expand, support, or contribute to well managed high-quality OHV recreation areas, roads, and trails. Also as important, the Grants Program seeks to responsibly maintain the wildlife, soils, and habitat of project areas in a manner that will sustain long-term OHV recreation.

The Forest will host a virtual open house on February 23, 2022, from 4:00 – 6:00 p.m. using Microsoft Teams. The public may join the meeting using the information listed below. Current application proposals need to reflect current needs and will be informed by prior year monitoring and accomplishments, upcoming projects being planned, and disaster relief efforts following the Caldor fire. Members of the public are encouraged to come with suggestions to assist the ENF’s project development for the upcoming grant application cycle as your ideas and input are important for developing our proposals.

The ENF has been successful in being awarded grants from the OHMVR Division in previous grant cycles. The grants have helped address trail repair and clearing of downed trees on over 300 miles of OHV routes and law enforcement patrol on an additional 900 miles of native surface roads on the Forest, provided for the printing of free Motor Vehicle Use Maps, OHV campground and trailhead maintenance, as well as other planning, development, and restoration activities.

Once completed, the preliminary grant applications will be available on the OHMVR website on Tuesday, March 8, 2022, through Monday, May 2, 2022, for review and comment. To review the grant applications submitted go to http://olga.ohv.parks.ca.gov/egrams_ohmvr/user/home.aspx.

The public may provide electronic comments to the Eldorado National Forest (applicant) by e-mailing both Michelle Zuro-Kreimer at michelle.zuro-kreimer@usda.gov and carbon copying (cc) the OHMVR Division at OHV.Grants@parks.ca.gov.

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TNF Grant Meeting – TONIGHT!

Sorry for the late notice but I just found this in my JUNK folder:

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Feb. 1, 2022, NEVADA CITY, Calif. – The Tahoe National Forest will host a virtual presentation 6:30 p.m. February 10 for those interested in providing input on California OHV grant applications.

The Tahoe NF is preparing its annual application to the California Department of Parks and Recreation’s Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Division. The annual application requests funding for trail and OHV facilities maintenance, law enforcement, education and safety, and OHV facility and trail planing.

The hour-long meeting will allow the public to learn more about the grant process and how to provide input.

The meeting will be hosted via Microsoft Teams (https://bit.ly/3s4GAx8). Those interested in attending do not need a Teams account to access the presentation.

“I encourage anyone interested in the OHV program to join in this presentation by the forest and district trail managers, and provide their ideas on these proposals,” said Trails Program Coordinator Joe Chavez.

The annual grants provide important funds for the Tahoe NF to develop and maintain trails and trailheads. This includes repairing winter storm damage, restoring trailside environments, covering patrol units, educating trail users and monitoring OHV areas.

When finalized, the grants will be available for public review and comment on the State of California’s website from March 8, 2022 to May 2, 2022.

Comments can be submitted during the meeting via the Microsoft Teams chat function, or via email to joe.chavez@usda.gov.

Comments can also be mailed to the following address prior to February 24:

Joe Chavez, Forest Trails Program Coordinator

Tahoe National Forest

631 Coyote St.

Nevada City, CA, 95959


Reno Off-Road and Motorsports Expo: March 23rd-27th, 2022

It’s on again. For the last two years, the Reno Off-Road and Motorsports Expo has been cancelled due to covid concerns. All signs point to the show actually happening this year at the Reno Convention Center!

https://www.lockettshows.com/off-road-and-motorsports-expo

The show is actually five shows in one: Off-Road, RV, Boat, Home and Pet shows. One ticket, five shows.

I will again have a booth with the Lake Tahoe Hi-Lo’s at the show to talk about everything Rubicon Trail. Here’s a shot from 2019:

I think this is from 2018:

Here’s the twist for 2022. The plan is to hold a meeting, Saturday morning starting at 9am, to talk about the Rubicon Trail. Entry to the Rubicon meeting will be free. I believe that a ticket to get you in to all five shows is only $10.

I first planned this meeting for 2020. But then covid. Since then, I’ve become burnt out on sitting on boards and organizing meetings. Now it’s 2022. El Dorado Couty has stepped up to take the lead on making this meeting happen. All of the governing agencies have been invited. User groups have also been invited. Local clubs should be represented. There has been a list of questions and topics for discussion presented to El Dorado County. Hopefully, all of our questions will be answered.

My assumption of how things will go at the meeting…

-Introductions of presenters

-Explanation of how and by who the trail is managed

-Explanation on how trail maintenance is funded

-Maintenance: who, what, when, where and how

-Possible projects

-Current issues

-Questions and Answer session

Hopefully, we will get all of our questions answered.

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Rubicon Ronin


Education time

Okay, only the first half of this video is worth watching but I don’t have the skills to edit it. I wish someone could now add the articulation angle (pun intended) to this to really teach people how to build their rigs for the trail.

The order of improvements show in the video is not the order I would do them to my rig. And of course, there needs to be a balance.

I’m still driving a 2-door Wrangler. On Fordyce last year, I needed a line on my bumper to keep the front end down climbing one obstacle. The longer JL’s probably didn’t need that tug, don’t know if the 4-doors were getting high centered.

What I don’t want to give up is the mobility of the short wheelbase 2-door. I love that I can turn so tight on the trail, allowing me to take the line I want. My TJ turns so much better than my old CJ-7.

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Rubicon Ronin


RANT warning: “My lack of confidence in the Rubicon Trail Foundation (RTF)”

A quick timeline of events:

8/14   Caldor fire starts in the Eldorado National Forest

8/17   The Eldorado National Forest is closed

8/18   El Dorado County closes the Rubicon Trail

8/19   The Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit (LTBMU) closes the west shore

8/19 I email RTF, asking what the “heck”? The fire is 12 miles away!

8/19   An hour later Region-5 closes all northern California forests

9/15 – Region-5 reopens the forests, two days earlier than expected

9/15 El Dorado County opens the Rubicon for day use only

9/20 – The LTBMU re-closes the west shore, the Rubicon Trail and wilderness areas

9/21 – I post about the re-closure on my website, linking to the LTBMU page

9/21 I post on the RTF Facebook page about the closure

9/21 Minutes later, RTF removes my post and about the closure

9/21 I emailed the entire RTF board asking why my post was removed and why they are not getting the closure info out to the users

9/21 RTF informed me they got yelled out for lack of complete information so they’re waiting until they have all the information. We’re still waiting, more than a week later.

Bottom line, RTF is not only holding back critical information from the users, they are actively suppressing information about the Rubicon Trail being closed.

I guess the big question is why would RTF suppress this information? RTF claims they wanted ALL the correct information before posting. I say, post the facts you can prove. Link to the LTBMU website and post the actual Forest Service (FS) documents and answer questions as they come in. To date, RTF has NOT posted about the Basin closure that runs through Oct 20th.

The Rubicon Trail Foundation mission statement: “To enhance the future health and use of the Rubicon trail, while ensuring responsible, motorized, year-round trail access.”

My personal assumption is that RTF doesn’t want to be seen as unable to keep the trail open “for year-round trail access” as their mission statement claims, so they just ignoring the closure.

Back when I emailed RTF about the early (8/19) LTBMU west shore closure, I wanted someone to push back on the LTBMU jumping the gun with an over-reaction and unnecessary closure. My feelings are that if these closures don’t get pushback, the FS will continue to put these closures in place, earlier and longer. I’ll point to campfire restrictions as my example. Think about full forest closures following the same closure dates as campfires.

Now, after Region-5 re-opens all northern California forests except the Eldorado. The LTBMU places a closure order on the west shore of Lake Tahoe, including the Rubicon Trail. Why?

Recognize that the Tahoe National Forest (TNF) has not closed the portion of their forest that lies between the Eldorado and the LTBMU! The Rubicon is open from Miller Lake to Miller Creek; the Hobbit Trail is open; Ellis Peak and many other trails are open but land locked by closures and restrictions.

The Rubicon Trail is still a county road within the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit and the TNF. Does the Forest Service really have the authority to close a county road, with no “emergency” at hand? Remember the Caldor Fire is now 76% contained fire is 10-12 miles away.

Today’s FS press release scales down the Eldorado closure and reopens part of the Eldorado closure but the LTBMU closure documents are included without change. The Rubicon remains closed. Ironically, the Noonchester Mine Road is open off the Rubicon because the ‘closure’ is listed as “backcountry”.

So, the TNF is open, the Eldorado is starting to re-open but the west shore of the LTBMU remains closed!

The Basin has overreacted and needs to be told exactly that. RTF and others need to push back on the current closure and fight to keep the Rubicon Trail open for “motorized, year-round trail access”.

FYI, the toilets at the Tahoma staging area were closed this morning, so those going to check conditions or not knowing of the closure have nowhere but the forest along McKinney Creek to ‘go’ when visiting the staging area. Not good.

Staying with Tahoe side issues:

No word on where we stand with the snow wall at the Tahoma entrance. Last I heard, Placer County was going to continue to ‘prioritize clearing the residential streets over keeping the Rubicon entrance clear of snow’. (not a true quote, but close)

One RTF board member said he thought that meeting went well! How is that “ensuring responsible, motorized, year-round trail access”?

Lahontan Water Authority issued a “Cease & Desist” when a small group of trail users used commercial snow removal equipment to clear the Tahoma entrance of snow piled there by Placer County.

When asked what RTF was going to do about that order, another RTF board member said that it was not their fight. How is that “ensuring responsible, motorized, year-round trail access”?

RTF supported the reroute around “the mud hole”. They worked with the Tahoe National Forest, built a berm to control the water flow of the seasonal creek crossing, cut down trees, blocked the original trail, placed fencing & rock down to create the current bypass.

The reroute is much narrower and has tighter turns. It’s also a dust mess. Lots of erosion. I’d like to know what that reroute does to a possible future RS2477 legal challenge. Since it’s not the original county road route, can the FS seasonally close it?

Early this year, there was literally no water in the old mud hole, while the rest of the Tahoe side was a wet mess. The berm did an excellent job and the reroute is actually no longer needed as long as the berm is maintained. Are we going to go back to the original route?

As the title of this rant says, I have lost confidence in RTF to do the right thing for the users and for the trail. There is the possibility that RTF is working in the background to get things done but following the list of to-do’s mentioned above, and the length of time those issues have been active, I’m not hearing that the RTF has been successful.

I’ll even put my real name to this one…

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Doug Barr